Once Again
The Heart of Worship
Saturday, June 30, 2007
Thursday, June 28, 2007
Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street
ECGMA says: This sure brings back memories of my time when I lived in the UK for 6 years. It was uncanny at the time, around 1979/80, I was in a long queue in front of Madame Tussauds when someone near me in the same queue had a portable radio (iPods or walkman then!), this song cme on. What an coincident it was coz if you know where Madame Tussauds is in London, you know why!
Madame Tussaud was born in Strasbourg in 1761 and after inheriting a wax museum from Philippe Curtius in 1794, moved to London to set up an exhibition on London’s Baker Street. Following her death in 1850, her grandsons moved the display to its present location on Marylebone Road. To get there by Underground train, the station is Baker St. station.
By the way, it took me nearly a hour before I got in to MT.
As for the song, great one, awesome lead guitaring and the saxaphone, blew me away!
1978) In his early years, Gerry Rafferty earned money by the formerly illegal practice of busking on the London Underground. Poetically, his biggest hit "Baker Street" was about busking at a tube station. After working with Billy Connolly (now better known as a comedian) in a band called the Humblebums, he recorded a first solo album, Can I Have My Money Back. In 1972 Rafferty and his old school friend Joe Egan formed Stealers Wheel, a group beset by legal wranglings but which did have a huge hit "Stuck in the Middle With You" (made famous for a new generation in the movie Reservoir Dogs) and the smaller top 40 hit "Star" ten months later. The duo disbanded in 1975.
In 1978, Rafferty cut a solo album, City to City, which included the song with which he remains most identified, "Baker Street". The single reached No. 3 in the UK and No. 2 in the U.S. The album sold over 5.5 million copies, toppling the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack in the U.S. on 8 July 1978, while "Baker Street" remains a mainstay of radio airplay. A cover version by Undercover also made the Top 3 in the UK singles chart in 1992. Another song from the City to City album, "Right Down the Line", also continues to receive copious radio airplay. "Home and Dry" managed a top 30 spot. One of the more obscure tracks from that time is "Big Change in the Weather" (the B-side of "Baker Street").
His next album, Night Owl, also did well, and the title track was a UK No. 5 hit in 1979. "Days Gone Down" reached #17 in the U.S. The follow-up single "Get It Right Next Time" made the UK and US Top 40.
Subsequent albums, such as Snakes and Ladders (1980), Sleepwalking (1982), and North and South (1988), all fared less well, due partly to Rafferty's general reluctance to perform live. "Don't Give Up On Me", from his 1992 collection On A Wing and a Prayer, is a much-featured oldie on BBC Radio 2. That album reunited him with Stealers Wheel partner Joe Egan on several tracks. Rafferty redid his own "Her Father Didn't Like Me Anyway" on the album Over My Head (1994). His latest effort was Another World, released in 2000 and was originally available only through direct order from his no longer active website, but is now on general release through the Hypertension label. Another World featured an album cover painting by J. Patrick Byrne, who also painted the covers for City to City, Night Owl, and Snakes and Ladders.
Rafferty also sings on the soundtrack to the film, Local Hero - "The Way it Always Starts" (1983), and co-produced The Proclaimers first UK hit single Letter From America in 1987 along with Hugh Murphy.
He also has a niece called Kirsty Featherstone who is in love with Ross Fellows of Roker, Sunderland. He is noted to be the only person in Roker with a ginger beard, a lip ring and an arm full of freckles. So far.
How Long does it take to go from Marylebone to Baker Street?
1 minute, apparently.
Madame Tussaud was born in Strasbourg in 1761 and after inheriting a wax museum from Philippe Curtius in 1794, moved to London to set up an exhibition on London’s Baker Street. Following her death in 1850, her grandsons moved the display to its present location on Marylebone Road. To get there by Underground train, the station is Baker St. station.
By the way, it took me nearly a hour before I got in to MT.
As for the song, great one, awesome lead guitaring and the saxaphone, blew me away!
1978) In his early years, Gerry Rafferty earned money by the formerly illegal practice of busking on the London Underground. Poetically, his biggest hit "Baker Street" was about busking at a tube station. After working with Billy Connolly (now better known as a comedian) in a band called the Humblebums, he recorded a first solo album, Can I Have My Money Back. In 1972 Rafferty and his old school friend Joe Egan formed Stealers Wheel, a group beset by legal wranglings but which did have a huge hit "Stuck in the Middle With You" (made famous for a new generation in the movie Reservoir Dogs) and the smaller top 40 hit "Star" ten months later. The duo disbanded in 1975.
In 1978, Rafferty cut a solo album, City to City, which included the song with which he remains most identified, "Baker Street". The single reached No. 3 in the UK and No. 2 in the U.S. The album sold over 5.5 million copies, toppling the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack in the U.S. on 8 July 1978, while "Baker Street" remains a mainstay of radio airplay. A cover version by Undercover also made the Top 3 in the UK singles chart in 1992. Another song from the City to City album, "Right Down the Line", also continues to receive copious radio airplay. "Home and Dry" managed a top 30 spot. One of the more obscure tracks from that time is "Big Change in the Weather" (the B-side of "Baker Street").
His next album, Night Owl, also did well, and the title track was a UK No. 5 hit in 1979. "Days Gone Down" reached #17 in the U.S. The follow-up single "Get It Right Next Time" made the UK and US Top 40.
Subsequent albums, such as Snakes and Ladders (1980), Sleepwalking (1982), and North and South (1988), all fared less well, due partly to Rafferty's general reluctance to perform live. "Don't Give Up On Me", from his 1992 collection On A Wing and a Prayer, is a much-featured oldie on BBC Radio 2. That album reunited him with Stealers Wheel partner Joe Egan on several tracks. Rafferty redid his own "Her Father Didn't Like Me Anyway" on the album Over My Head (1994). His latest effort was Another World, released in 2000 and was originally available only through direct order from his no longer active website, but is now on general release through the Hypertension label. Another World featured an album cover painting by J. Patrick Byrne, who also painted the covers for City to City, Night Owl, and Snakes and Ladders.
Rafferty also sings on the soundtrack to the film, Local Hero - "The Way it Always Starts" (1983), and co-produced The Proclaimers first UK hit single Letter From America in 1987 along with Hugh Murphy.
He also has a niece called Kirsty Featherstone who is in love with Ross Fellows of Roker, Sunderland. He is noted to be the only person in Roker with a ginger beard, a lip ring and an arm full of freckles. So far.
How Long does it take to go from Marylebone to Baker Street?
1 minute, apparently.
Pre-takeoff Announcement on a China Southern Airlines Flight
This is a true account of what was heard on a recent flight from Shenzhen to Qingtao by China Southern Airlines:
"Good afternoon, Ladies and the German,
"Good afternoon, Ladies and the German,
This is your cheap purser Wang Lui speaking. On behalf of China Sudden Airlines, I would like to welcome you on board our Bowling 737 from Shenzhen to Qingtao. Members of my crew speak Chinese and other languages that you do not know.
It is a great pressure serving you to-die. Should you need any resistance
during the fright, peace do pest the call button. I and my gals are available
to make you feel comfortable.
Meanwhile, the airkwaft is going to fry. Peace sit upright and keep you belt tightly fastened until dinner is served at five dirty p.m.
Hope you would enjoy your fright with us.
Funk kill."
"Forever Young" by Alphaville
by Alphaville
Music Video from Australian band "Youth Group". Footage is from 1975 skateboard championships. check out www.youthgroupmusic.com
Music Video from Australian band "Youth Group". Footage is from 1975 skateboard championships. check out www.youthgroupmusic.com
Tuesday, June 26, 2007
Google... The truth.
ECGMA says: Gevil?!?! Is there also a Yevil (Yahoo) or Hevil (Hotmail)?
One of the founding ideals of Google is supposed to be "do no evil".
Oh yeah? You should really read <http://gevil.org/>.
Start deleting your cookies folks. And for Pete's sake do NOT use the Google toolbar if you value your privacy.
Better yet, use Opera!
One of the founding ideals of Google is supposed to be "do no evil".
Oh yeah? You should really read <http://gevil.org/>.
Start deleting your cookies folks. And for Pete's sake do NOT use the Google toolbar if you value your privacy.
Better yet, use Opera!
Saturday, June 23, 2007
Marriage before & after
Before the marriage:
He: Yes. At last. It was so hard to wait.
She: Do you want me to leave?
He: NO! Don't even think about it.
She: Do you love me?
He: Of course!
She: Have you ever cheated on me?
He: NO! Why you even asking?
She: Will you kiss me?
He: Yes!
She: Will you hit me?
He: No way! I'm not such kind of person!
She: Can I trust you?
Now after the marriage you can read it from bottom to the top !!!!
Friday, June 22, 2007
Gregory Rivers - Aussie speaking/singing Cantonese
ECGMA says: I hear you ask "Greg who?!?!". Well, you can check him out here,
河國榮, An Aussie in Hong Kong
Gregory Rivers = Ho Kwok Wing
Singing in Cantonese
Speaking in Cantonese
河國榮, An Aussie in Hong Kong
Gregory Rivers = Ho Kwok Wing
Singing in Cantonese
Speaking in Cantonese
Learn how to speak hokkien (Lesson 1 & 2)
ECGMA says: If you are easily offended, don't view the clips otherwise, enjoy!
Lesson 1
Lesson 2
Lesson 1
Lesson 2
Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Andy Mckee - Harp Guitar
www.candyrat.com
Andy Mckee - Into the Ocean
Andy Mckee - The Friend I never met
Andy Mckee - Africa - Toto
Andy Mckee - Into the Ocean
Andy Mckee - The Friend I never met
Andy Mckee - Africa - Toto
"Ana" Music Video - Vieux Farka Toure
Scenes from Vieux Farka Toure's home in Bamako, Mali, set to his single "Ana."
http://www.vieuxfarkatoure.com
Shot and directed by Andrea Wozny
Edited by Salvatore Fullmore
Produced by Modiba Productions (c)2006
http://www.vieuxfarkatoure.com
Shot and directed by Andrea Wozny
Edited by Salvatore Fullmore
Produced by Modiba Productions (c)2006
Anastasia Bardina, classical guitar
Russian female guitar virtuoso A. Bardina performing in Tartu (Estonia) on August 12, 2005 NB! This is a Russian 7-string guitar!
Jim Greeninger - The Girl From Ipanema / Recuerdos de la Alhambra
The Girl From Ipanema, Jim Greeninger
Jim Greeninger, Recuerdos de la Alhambra, Ver. 1
Jim Greeninger, Recuerdos de la Alhambra, Ver. 1
PC/Internet Tips & Tricks
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Besides the signature definitions, make sure your antivirus software itself is up-to-date. Subscribe to advisory and alert lists. These will inform you of any new software updates or patches that are released. Sign up for independent bug-tracking sources, such as the CERT Coordination Center's Advisory List or the BugTraq mailing list, or visit Security Focus regularly. When identifying vulnerabilities, make sure you don't overlook systems that are perceived as "less critical." Many intrusions enter through seemingly less-critical holes. After the intruders gain access, they use that entry as a springboard to move into more critical applications. Remember, anything that is exposed is mission-critical, even if not right away. Any foothold that a pirate can get in your network is a disaster waiting to happen, either in terms of damages to the system or in terms of data theft. As a preventive measure, back up your system and data at least once a month. 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I don’t yet have an antivirus installed on my computer. How will I know if it’s infected with a virus? Is it true that MMS can spread viruses? What is the registry and how can I modify it? HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run But be careful - do not delete a key if your do not know what its function is. Only use registry editor when you know which line you need to modify. I use my PC with an administrator account. What are the risks, if any? I have not opened any suspect files and yet my computer is full of spyware. How can I avoid it? My task manager seems to be blocked and I cannot open certain websites, nor can I update my software programs. What is causing this problem? Can viruses spread via instant messages? I would like to select the ads that I want to block on the Internet. How is this possible? Several of us use the same family computer. How can we protect the younger users whilst not hindering the browsing of adults in the house? I have heard that the sudden appearance of pop-up windows can indicate a fraudulent site. Is this true? Pop-up windows, when used for legitimate ends, can be a very useful way of displaying information without closing the original page. But a weakness recently discovered in the majority of web browsers has shown that they can be used as a tool in carrying out "phishing" attacks. Hackers can take control of a pop-up window, even when you are on your bank's legitimate website for example. To avoid this type of risk, be sure to check the address of the pop-ups that appear (if the address is not visible, simply right-click on the window and select "Properties" from the context menu - the address will then be displayed). In any case, it is recommended that you not give out confidential personal information on a webpage that you are unsure of. 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Tuesday, June 19, 2007
Narnia: Remembering You - Steven Curtis Chapman
http://www.NarniaFans.com The official music video of "Remembering You", performed by Steven Curtis Chapman in his contribution to "Music Inspired by the Chronicles of Narnia".
"Remembering You" is a song from the perspective of a lot of the characters at the end of the story saying, 'whenever I see the first signs of spring, I'll be remembering you, Aslan, the story and what is to come.'
"Remembering You" is a song from the perspective of a lot of the characters at the end of the story saying, 'whenever I see the first signs of spring, I'll be remembering you, Aslan, the story and what is to come.'
Monday, June 18, 2007
As The Deer (Psalms 42:1)
"As The Deer" Written by Martin Nystrom
Psalm 42:1
"As the hart panteth after the water brooks,
so panteth my soul after thee, O God."
(lyrics below)
Psalm 42:1
"As the hart panteth after the water brooks,
so panteth my soul after thee, O God."
(lyrics below)
As The Deer by Jim Greeninger
As The Deer
As The Deer
As the deer panteth for the water,
So my soul longs after you.
You alone are my hearts desire,
And I long to worship You.
Chorus
You alone are my strength, my shield;
To You alone may my spirit yield.
You alone are my hearts desire,
and I long to worship You.
I want you more than gold or silver,
Only You can satisfy.
You alone are the real joy giver
And the apple of my eye.
Chorus
You alone are my strength, my shield;
To You alone may my spirit yield.
You alone are my hearts desire,
and I long to worship You.
You're my friend and You're my brother,
Even though you are a King.
I love You more than any other
So much more than anything.
Chorus
You alone are my strength, my shield;
To You alone may my spirit yield.
You alone are my hearts desire,
and I long to worship You.
Friday, June 15, 2007
Thursday, June 14, 2007
The Circle Game
ECGMA says : the 1st time I heard this song was in my teens watched an Agnes Chan movie which she sang this song. Gosh! I am old!
Sing-along lyrics at the bottom of the page
Circle Game (電影: 年輕人) 陳美齡 Agnes Chan
The Circle Game by Steven Curtis Chapman from the China released Album Musical Blessings.
Just a fantasy video of the passage of time using pictures of faeries. Set to the song "The Circle Game" by Joni Mitchell.
Lyrics : The Circle Game
Yesterday a child came out to wonder
Caught a dragonfly inside a jar
Fearful when the sky was full of thunder
And tearful at the falling of a star
Then the child moved ten times round the seasons
Skated over ten clear frozen streams
Words like, when you're older, must appease him
And promises of someday make his dreams
And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
Were captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game
Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now
Cartwheels turn to car wheels thru the town
And they tell him,
Take your time, it won't be long now
Till you drag your feet to slow the circles down
And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game
So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty
Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true
Therell be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty
Before the last revolving year is through
And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return, we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game
Circle Game (電影: 年輕人) 陳美齡 Agnes Chan
The Circle Game by Steven Curtis Chapman from the China released Album Musical Blessings.
Just a fantasy video of the passage of time using pictures of faeries. Set to the song "The Circle Game" by Joni Mitchell.
Lyrics : The Circle Game
Yesterday a child came out to wonder
Caught a dragonfly inside a jar
Fearful when the sky was full of thunder
And tearful at the falling of a star
Then the child moved ten times round the seasons
Skated over ten clear frozen streams
Words like, when you're older, must appease him
And promises of someday make his dreams
And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
Were captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game
Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now
Cartwheels turn to car wheels thru the town
And they tell him,
Take your time, it won't be long now
Till you drag your feet to slow the circles down
And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game
So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty
Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true
Therell be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty
Before the last revolving year is through
And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return, we can only look behind
From where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game
Shadow Performance
ECGMA says : if only Malaysia's wayang kulit (shadow puppet theater ) was this innovative and interesting.....hmmmm.....
Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Interview with Michael Backman
Exclusive Interview with Michael Backman
1. What was the initial thought that prompted you to write about your "Boleh or Bodoh column"? What was and has been your intention in writing the article?
Malaysia has good people, good resources and a legal system that ought to function. It depresses me that Malaysia hasn't been more successful than it has and that it is still fighting the old fights of the 1960s. Malaysia's Chinese have accepted the NEP and its successor policies. They define themselves as Malaysians first and foremost and are among the proudest Malaysians. They have learned Malay. Essentially, they have done everything that has been required of them and yet still there is this endless preoccupation with race in Malaysia.
Meanwhile the rest of the world is just so unbelievably dynamic now. Malaysia is looking more and more like a sleepy backwater relative to what's going on elsewhere in the world. Many Malaysians don't seem to understand this. Many like to travel overseas but when they do, too many look but they don't see. They don't see how things in Malaysia could be improved. They don't want to learn from anywhere else. They think Malaysia is a special case. They should be bringing back new ideas to Malaysia. Instead they just want to bring back duty free.
2. Have you ever considered the impact the column might have upon your relationship with Malaysian government and its people? We understand Rafidah Aziz, Malaysia's Minister for Trade and Industry,
criticised your column by saying you probably know nothing about Malaysia. Has there been any (positive or negative) impact/response from publishing the column?
I write to be read and I write to have an impact, otherwise there is no point in writing. I criticised the space program for Malaysia's first astronaut the making of teh tarik and so on and the Malaysian Government
changed its mind on that and announced that the astronaut would be doing sensible scientific experiments after all. Perhaps I had an impact there.
In any event, more than a thousand Malaysians e-mailed me to say that they agreed with my views. If I am giving a voice to those Malaysians who share the same views but feel that they can't express them then I'm happy to have been of some help. But then why should I as a non-Malaysian comment about Malaysia?
As far as I am concerned, strict notions of nationality are breaking down. We are all involved in each other's countries now. Malaysians have a lot of investments in Australia. Australians invest in Asia and so on. We all have stakes in other countries and so all should be able to comment on how they are run. The free flow of ideas and openness are good things. The only people who do not like this are politicians in Malaysia and Singapore. You will never hear Australian or UK politicians complaining about those things. So you should ask yourself, why do Malaysian and Singaporean politicians dislike public debate and openness?
As for Rafidah, I know quite a lot about Malaysia. And I know quite a lot about Rafidah, which is why I wrote about the corruption allegations against her in my second column. Rafidah understands her trade brief very well, but she is dictatorial. Look at how she rules UMNO Wanita. Sadly, I suspect I know more about Malaysia than many Malaysians. One reason for this is because Malaysia's media is so poor and many things cannot be discussed openly. Ministers like Rafidah would prefer that Malaysians are not told things. Perhaps they have something to hide.
There is an idea among Malaysians that their country is particularly special and unique and that non-Malaysians simply cannot know much about Malaysia. That simply isn't true. All countries are complex and have their nuances. You can be expert in a country without being from that country. Indeed, sometimes it helps not to be from that country. If more Malaysians sent more time away from Malaysia, they would gain a far clearer picture of what Malaysia is and what it is not.
I have met many Malaysian politicians and business people, spent time in almost every Malaysian state, sat through sessions of the Malaysian parliament and even attended an UMNO general assembly, stayed in kampongs, visited rubber plantations, and so on - that's more than most Malaysians. I have stayed with Malaysian friends in Damansara, in Ampang and in Pandan Jaya. But Rafidah only stays in Damansara.
3. We understand you're an expert on Asia's political and economical affairs. But you seem to have taken an extra interest in Malaysia (like having a special column for Malaysia's articles on your webpage (http://www.michaelbackman.com/ ). Why Malaysia?
I studied at an Australian university. Many of my classmates were Malaysian students Chinese, Malay and Indians. I became very interested in Malaysia from that time on.
4. After reading the column, one can hardly not to think that Malaysia is a somewhat badly "managed" country. We know it might be a big question, but what do you think has contributed to the "mismanagement" of the country?
It is not all bad news. Malaysia has handled race relations well. The NEP with all its imperfections was good for Malaysia. But Malaysia is rich in resources and there is a lot of squandering of those resources. Education is big part of the problem. Malaysian schools are not nearly good enough. There are Malaysians who are now very regretful and resentful that they attended school in Malaysia. Some have told me that they have spent a lot of their adult lives trying to undo the damage of rote learning and 'follow the leader'-type training that they were given in Malaysia. Malaysian schools are a long, long way behind schooling in the West in which emphasis is very much on learning how to question, be creative and not being afraid to publicly voice your opinions.
When I was at school in Australia I was encouraged to write essays in which I took the opposite view to my teachers. And the more I argued against my teachers' positions on things such as social and political issues, the higher the grades that I received. Malaysian schools need to become like this.
5. From the top of your head, what would you rank as the most wasteful projects/policies ever implemented by Malaysia Government in the past 10 years, and why?
Proton Malaysia should NOT have a national car. You cannot get sufficient economies of scale with a population as small as Malaysia's when it comes to car manufacturing Putrajaya removing civil servants from ordinary society does not make for good government
KLIA all that infrastructure, very little air traffic and it still takes forever for your luggage to come though it is ridiculous Petronas Towers the lower floors are mostly full of lift shafts you can't rent out a lift shaft
The Pastor's Ass
The pastor entered his donkey in a race and it won. The pastor was so pleased with the donkey that he entered it in the race again, and it won again.
The local paper read:
PASTOR'S ASS OUT FRONT
The Bishop was so upset with this kind of publicity that he ordered the pastor not to enter the donkey in another race.
The next day, the local paper headline read:
BISHOP SCRATCHES PASTOR'S ASS.
This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the pastor to get rid of the donkey. The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a nearby convent.
The local paper, hearing of the news, posted the following headline the next day:
NUN HAS BEST ASS IN TOWN.
The bishop fainted. He informed the nun that she would have to get rid of the donkey, so she sold it to a farmer for $10.
The next day the paper read
NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10
This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the nun to buy back the donkey and lead it to the plains where it could run wild.
The next day the headlines read
NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS WILD AND FREE
The bishop was buried the next day.
The moral of the story is....being concerned about public opinion can bring you much grief and misery...and even shorten your life. So be yourself and enjoy life... Stop worrying about everyone else's ass and you'll be a lot happier and live.
The local paper read:
PASTOR'S ASS OUT FRONT
The Bishop was so upset with this kind of publicity that he ordered the pastor not to enter the donkey in another race.
The next day, the local paper headline read:
BISHOP SCRATCHES PASTOR'S ASS.
This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the pastor to get rid of the donkey. The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a nearby convent.
The local paper, hearing of the news, posted the following headline the next day:
NUN HAS BEST ASS IN TOWN.
The bishop fainted. He informed the nun that she would have to get rid of the donkey, so she sold it to a farmer for $10.
The next day the paper read
NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10
This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the nun to buy back the donkey and lead it to the plains where it could run wild.
The next day the headlines read
NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS WILD AND FREE
The bishop was buried the next day.
The moral of the story is....being concerned about public opinion can bring you much grief and misery...and even shorten your life. So be yourself and enjoy life... Stop worrying about everyone else's ass and you'll be a lot happier and live.
5 Valuable lessons
Five (5) lessons about the way we treat people.
1 - First Important Lesson - Cleaning Lady.
During my second month of college, our professor
gave us a pop quiz. I was a conscientious student
and had breezed through the questions until I read
the last one:
"What is the first name of the woman who cleans the school?"
Surely this was some kind of joke. I had seen the
cleaning woman several times. She was tall,
dark-haired and in her 50's, but how would I know her name?
I handed in my paper, leaving the last question
blank. Just before class ended, one student asked if
the last question would count toward our quiz grade.
"Absolutely, " said the professor. "In your careers,
you will meet many people. All are significant. They
deserve your attention and care, even if all you do
is smile and say "hello."
I've never forgotten that lesson. I also learned her
name was Dorothy.
2. - Second Important Lesson - Pickup in the Rain
One night, at 11:30 p.m., an older African American
woman was standing on the side of anAlabama highway
trying to endure a lashing rain storm. Her car had
broken down and she desperately needed a ride.
Soaking wet, she decided to flag down the next car.
A young white man stopped to help her, generally
unheard of in those conflict-filled 1960's. The man
took her to safety, helped her get assistance and
put her into a taxicab.
She seemed to be in a big hurry, but wrote down his
address and thanked him. Seven days went by and a
knock came on the man's door. To his surprise, a
giant console color TV was delivered to his home. A
special note was attached.
It read:
"Thank you so much for assisting me on the highway
the other night. The rain drenched not only my
clothes, but also my spirits. Then you came along.
Because of you, I was able to make it to my dying
husband's bedside just before he passed away... God
bless you for helping me and unselfishly serving
others."
Sincerely,
Mrs. Nat King Cole.
3 - Third Important Lesson - Always remember those
who serve.
In the days when an ice cream sundae cost much less,
a 10-year-old boy entered a hotel coffee shop and
sat at a table. A waitress put a glass of water in
front of him.
"How much is an ice cream sundae?" he asked.
"Fifty cents," replied the waitress.
The little boy pulled his hand out of his pocket and
studied the coins in it.
"Well, how much is a plain dish of ice cream?" he inquired.
By now more people were waiting for a table and the
waitress was growing impatient.
"Thirty-five cents," she brusquely replied.
The little boy again counted his coins.
"I'll have the plain ice cream," he said.
The waitress brought the ice cream, put the bill on
the table and walked away The boy finished the ice
cream, paid the cashier and left. When the waitress
came back, she began to cry as she wiped down the
table. There, placed neatly beside the empty dish,
were two nickels and five pennies..
You see, he couldn't have the sundae, because he had
to have enough left to leave her a tip.
4 - Fourth Important Lesson. - The obstacle in Our Path.
In ancient times, a King had a boulder placed on a
roadway. Then he hid himself and watched to see if
anyone would remove the huge rock. Some of the
king's wealthiest merchants and courtiers came by
and simply walked around it. Many loudly blamed the
King for not keeping the roads clear, but none did
anything about getting the stone out of the way.
Then a peasant came along carrying a load of
vegetables. Upon approaching the boulder, the
peasant laid down his burden and tried to move the
stone to the side of the road. After much pushing
and straining, he finally succeeded. After the
peasant picked up his load of vegetables, he noticed
a purse lying in the road where the boulder had
been. The purse contained many gold coins and a note
from the King indicating that the gold was for the
person who removed the boulder from the roadway. The
peasant learned what many of us never understand!
Every obstacle presents an opportunity to improve
our condition.
5 - Fifth Important Lesson - Giving When it Counts...
Many years ago, when I worked as a volunteer at a
hospital, I got to know a little girl named Liz who
was suffering from a rare & serious disease. Her only
chance of recovery appeared to be a blood
transfusion from her 5-year old brother, who had
miraculously survived the same disease and had
developed the antibodies needed to combat the
illness. The doctor explained the situation to her
little brother, and asked the little boy if he would
be willing to give his blood to his sister.
I saw him hesitate for only a moment before taking a
deep breath and saying, "Yes I'll do it if it will save
her." As the transfusion progressed, he lay in bed
next to his sister and smiled, as we all did, seeing
the color returning to her cheek. Then his face
grew pale and his smile faded.
He looked up at the doctor and asked with a
trembling voice, "Will I start to die right away".
Being young, the little boy had misunderstood the
doctor; he thought he was going to have to give his
sister all of his blood in order to save her.
Now you have 2 choices.
1 Delete this email, or
2. Forward it other people.
I hope that you will choose No. 2 and remember.
Most importantly................... "Work like you
don't need the money, love like you've never been
hurt, and dance like you do when nobody's watching."
NOW more than ever - Peace... Pass It On...
Medical Terms
Benign - What you be after you be eight.
Artery - The study of paintings.
Bacteria - Back door to cafeteria
Barium - What doctors do when patients die.
Cesarean Section - A neighborhood in Rome
Catscan - Searching for Kitty
Cauterize - Make eye contact with her
Colic - A sheep dog
Coma - A punctuation mark
D&C - Where Washington is
Dilate - To live long
Enema - Not a friend
Fester - Quicker than someone else
Fibula - A small lie
G.I.Series - World series of military baseball
Hangnail - What you hang your coat on
Impotent - Distinguished, well known
Labor Pains - Getting hurt at work
Medical Staff - A Doctor's cane
Morbid - A higher offer than I did
Nitrates - Cheaper than day rates
Node - I knew it
Outpatient - A person who has fainted
Pelvis - Second cousin to Elvis
Post Operative - A letter carrier
Recovery Room - Place to do upholstery
Rectum - nearly killed him
Secretion - Hiding something
Seizure - Roman emperor
Tablet - A small table
Terminal Illness - Getting sick at the airport
Tumor - More than one
Urine - Opposite of you're out
Varicose - Near by/close by
Artery - The study of paintings.
Bacteria - Back door to cafeteria
Barium - What doctors do when patients die.
Cesarean Section - A neighborhood in Rome
Catscan - Searching for Kitty
Cauterize - Make eye contact with her
Colic - A sheep dog
Coma - A punctuation mark
D&C - Where Washington is
Dilate - To live long
Enema - Not a friend
Fester - Quicker than someone else
Fibula - A small lie
G.I.Series - World series of military baseball
Hangnail - What you hang your coat on
Impotent - Distinguished, well known
Labor Pains - Getting hurt at work
Medical Staff - A Doctor's cane
Morbid - A higher offer than I did
Nitrates - Cheaper than day rates
Node - I knew it
Outpatient - A person who has fainted
Pelvis - Second cousin to Elvis
Post Operative - A letter carrier
Recovery Room - Place to do upholstery
Rectum - nearly killed him
Secretion - Hiding something
Seizure - Roman emperor
Tablet - A small table
Terminal Illness - Getting sick at the airport
Tumor - More than one
Urine - Opposite of you're out
Varicose - Near by/close by
How To Annoy Your Bathroom Neighbour
- Stick your palm open under the stall wall and ask your neighbour, ''May I borrow a highlighter?''
- ''Uh-oh, I knew I shouldn't put my lips on that.''
- Cheer and clap loudly every time somebody breaks the silence with a bodily function noise.
- ''Hmmm, I've never seen that colour before.''
- ''Damn, this water is cold.''
- Grunt and strain real loud for 30 seconds and then drop a cantaloupe into the toilet bowl from a high place and sigh relaxing.
- ''Now how did that get there?''
- ''Hummus. Reminds me of hummus.''
- Fill up a large flask with Mountain Dew. Squirt it erratically under the stall walls of your neighbours while yelling,''Whoa! Easy boy!!''
- '' Interesting....more sinkers than floaters''
- Using a small squeeze tube, spread peanut butter on a wad of toilet paper and drop under the stall wall of your neighbour. Then say,''Whoops, could you kick that back over here, please?"
- ''C'mon Mr. Happy! Don't fall asleep on me!!"
- ''Boy, that sure looks like a maggot''
- ''Damn, I knew that drain hole was a little too small. Now what am I gonna do?''
- Play a well-known drum cadence over and over again on your butt cheeks.
- Before you unroll toilet paper, conspicuity lay down your ''Cross-Dressers Anonymous'' newsletter on the floor visitable to the adjacent stall.
- Lower a small mirror underneath the stall wall and adjust it so you can see your neighbour and say, ''Peek-a-boo!''
- Drop a D-cup bra on the floor under the stall wall and sing ''Born Free.''
Friday, June 8, 2007
Thursday, June 7, 2007
How to recruit the right person for the job?
Put about 100 bricks in some particular order in a closed room with an open window. Then send 2 or 3 candidates in the room and close the door. Leave them alone and come back after 6 hours and then analyze the situation.
If they are counting the bricks.
Put them in the accounts department.
If they are recounting them..
Put them in auditing.
If they have messed up the whole place with the bricks.
Put them in engineering.
If they are arranging the bricks in some strange order.
Put them in planning.
If they are throwing the bricks at each other.
Put them in operations.
If they are sleeping.
Put them in security.
If they have broken the bricks into pieces.
Put them in information technology.
If they are sitting idle.
Put them in human resources.
If they say they have tried different combinations, yet not a brick has been moved. Put them in sales.
If they have already left for the day.
Put them in marketing.
If they are staring out of the window.
Put them on strategic planning.
And then last but not least.
If they are talking to each other and not a single brick has been moved.
Congratulate them and put them in top management.
If they are counting the bricks.
Put them in the accounts department.
If they are recounting them..
Put them in auditing.
If they have messed up the whole place with the bricks.
Put them in engineering.
If they are arranging the bricks in some strange order.
Put them in planning.
If they are throwing the bricks at each other.
Put them in operations.
If they are sleeping.
Put them in security.
If they have broken the bricks into pieces.
Put them in information technology.
If they are sitting idle.
Put them in human resources.
If they say they have tried different combinations, yet not a brick has been moved. Put them in sales.
If they have already left for the day.
Put them in marketing.
If they are staring out of the window.
Put them on strategic planning.
And then last but not least.
If they are talking to each other and not a single brick has been moved.
Congratulate them and put them in top management.
Polish Divorce
A Polish man moved to the USA and married an American girl.
Although his English was far from perfect, they got along very well until one day he Rushed into a lawyer's office and asked him if he could arrange a divorce for him "very quick."
The lawyer said that the speed for getting a divorce would depend on the circumstances, and asked him the following questions:
LAWYER: "Have you any grounds?"
POLE: "JA, JA, acre and half and nice little home."
LAWYER: "No," I mean what is the foundation of this case?"
POLE: "It made of concrete."
LAWYER: Does either of you have a real grudge?"
POLE: "No, we have carport, and not need one."
LAWYER: "I mean, What are your relations like?"
POLE: "All my relations still in Poland ."
LAWYER: "Is there any infidelity in your marriage?"
POLE: "Ja, we have hi-fidelity stereo set and good DVD player."
LAWYER: Does your wife beat you up?"
POLE: "No, I always up before her."
LAWYER: "Is your wife a nagger?"
POLE: "No, she white."
LAWYER: "WHY do you want this divorce?"
POLE: "She going to kill me."
LAWYER: "What makes you think that?"
POLE: "I got proof.
LAWYER: "What kind of proof?"
POLE: "She going to poison me She buy a bottle at drugstore and put on shelf in bathroom.I can read, and it say, 'Polish Remover'."
Although his English was far from perfect, they got along very well until one day he Rushed into a lawyer's office and asked him if he could arrange a divorce for him "very quick."
The lawyer said that the speed for getting a divorce would depend on the circumstances, and asked him the following questions:
LAWYER: "Have you any grounds?"
POLE: "JA, JA, acre and half and nice little home."
LAWYER: "No," I mean what is the foundation of this case?"
POLE: "It made of concrete."
LAWYER: Does either of you have a real grudge?"
POLE: "No, we have carport, and not need one."
LAWYER: "I mean, What are your relations like?"
POLE: "All my relations still in Poland ."
LAWYER: "Is there any infidelity in your marriage?"
POLE: "Ja, we have hi-fidelity stereo set and good DVD player."
LAWYER: Does your wife beat you up?"
POLE: "No, I always up before her."
LAWYER: "Is your wife a nagger?"
POLE: "No, she white."
LAWYER: "WHY do you want this divorce?"
POLE: "She going to kill me."
LAWYER: "What makes you think that?"
POLE: "I got proof.
LAWYER: "What kind of proof?"
POLE: "She going to poison me She buy a bottle at drugstore and put on shelf in bathroom.I can read, and it say, 'Polish Remover'."
Ali-G Interviews Posh Spice and David Beckham
Ali-G Interviews Posh Spice and David Beckham for a fund raise in England. Hilarious!
The Proclaimers - Letter from America
The 2 little Colins from Edinburgh perform The Proclaimers Letter from America
Wednesday, June 6, 2007
Moods of the Week - Friday and Saturday/Sunday
Click on the image to enlarge
Friday (left), Saturday/Sunday (right)
Magic Gopher
Just click on the Magic Gopher.
If you figure out how it works let me KNOW!!!! It is right every time ??? How?
Magic Gopher <<<<<Click here
Marital Bliss
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2007 9:39:26 AM
Subject: FW: Marital Bliss
A man and a woman who had never met before, but were both married to other people, found themselves assigned to the same sleeping room on a transcontinental train.
Though initially embarrassed and uneasy over sharing a room, they were both very tired and fell asleep quickly.... him in the upper bunk and she in the lower.
At 1:00 AM, the man leaned over and gently woke the woman saying, "Ma'am, I'm sorry to bother you, but would you be willing to reach into the closet to get me a second blanket? I'm awfully cold. "
"I have a better idea, " she replied." Just for tonight, let's just pretend that we're married. "
"Wow! That's a great idea! " he exclaimed!
"Good, " she replied... "Get your own f .ing blanket."
After a stunned moment of silence, he farted.
Subject: FW: Marital Bliss
A man and a woman who had never met before, but were both married to other people, found themselves assigned to the same sleeping room on a transcontinental train.
Though initially embarrassed and uneasy over sharing a room, they were both very tired and fell asleep quickly.... him in the upper bunk and she in the lower.
At 1:00 AM, the man leaned over and gently woke the woman saying, "Ma'am, I'm sorry to bother you, but would you be willing to reach into the closet to get me a second blanket? I'm awfully cold. "
"I have a better idea, " she replied." Just for tonight, let's just pretend that we're married. "
"Wow! That's a great idea! " he exclaimed!
"Good, " she replied... "Get your own f .ing blanket."
After a stunned moment of silence, he farted.
Help us put an end to whaling.
ECGMA says : my petition # is 357577
If you could tell as many people as you can about our website, that would be a great help.
Thanks for your support and remember to sign the petition.
Tuesday, June 5, 2007
Hee Ah Lee - the amazing 4-fingered pianist
ECGMA says: Watch her clips below and this one too.
Disabled Pianist Lee Hee-ah to Release Her First Album
Lee Hee-ah, 20, a disabled pianist who is making a deep impression on many people around the world by playing the piano despite having only four fingers, will release her first album.
Her album entitled "Hee-ah, a Pianist with Four Fingers" will hit the market around June 20.
The album will feature Lee's favorite classical numbers, such as "Fantaisie Impromptu in C sharp minor, op. 66" and "Waltz No. 10" by Frederic Francois Chopin, "Hungarian Dance" by Johannes Brahms, "Plaisir d'Amour" by Giovanni Battista Martini, "Serenade" by Franz Peter Schubert, and "Piano Concerto No. 21 -- the Second Movement" by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
The album also features "Amazing Grace," sung by Lee, and "Hee-ah's Song" written by Stephen Moon (Korean name Moon So-yon), a graduate of Seoul National University's Department of Composition who was in charge of producing the album. The recording began three years ago. Only "Hee-ah's Song" was recorded recently, but most of the other numbers, including "Fantaisie Impromptu in C sharp minor, op. 66," were recorded around 2002.
Lee's mother, Woo Kap-sun, 50, said she had originally intended to record her daughter's music in an album not to be sold, but to be kept in Lee's personal archive.
"In fact, I was concerned very much about the sales of the album, because Hee-ah's performing skills naturally fall behind those of normal professional pianists. The album was not designed for my daughter to play music for somebody else, but to represent her inner spiritual world," said Lee's mother.
Lee played with the Thames Philharmonic Orchestra in Britain on June 12. According to her mother, Lee received a standing ovation after playing "Hee-ah's Song" as an encore performance in Britain.
Disabled Pianist Lee Hee-ah to Release Her First AlbumLee Hee-ah, 20, a disabled pianist who is making a deep impression on many people around the world by playing the piano despite having only four fingers, will release her first album.
Her album entitled "Hee-ah, a Pianist with Four Fingers" will hit the market around June 20.
The album will feature Lee's favorite classical numbers, such as "Fantaisie Impromptu in C sharp minor, op. 66" and "Waltz No. 10" by Frederic Francois Chopin, "Hungarian Dance" by Johannes Brahms, "Plaisir d'Amour" by Giovanni Battista Martini, "Serenade" by Franz Peter Schubert, and "Piano Concerto No. 21 -- the Second Movement" by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
The album also features "Amazing Grace," sung by Lee, and "Hee-ah's Song" written by Stephen Moon (Korean name Moon So-yon), a graduate of Seoul National University's Department of Composition who was in charge of producing the album. The recording began three years ago. Only "Hee-ah's Song" was recorded recently, but most of the other numbers, including "Fantaisie Impromptu in C sharp minor, op. 66," were recorded around 2002.
Lee's mother, Woo Kap-sun, 50, said she had originally intended to record her daughter's music in an album not to be sold, but to be kept in Lee's personal archive.
"In fact, I was concerned very much about the sales of the album, because Hee-ah's performing skills naturally fall behind those of normal professional pianists. The album was not designed for my daughter to play music for somebody else, but to represent her inner spiritual world," said Lee's mother.
Lee played with the Thames Philharmonic Orchestra in Britain on June 12. According to her mother, Lee received a standing ovation after playing "Hee-ah's Song" as an encore performance in Britain.
More Islamic bashing following Lina Joy verdict
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